diff --git a/root/usr/share/smanager/lib/SrvMngr/Controller/Uservacations.pm b/root/usr/share/smanager/lib/SrvMngr/Controller/Uservacations.pm
index e9bd663..c6b17f8 100644
--- a/root/usr/share/smanager/lib/SrvMngr/Controller/Uservacations.pm
+++ b/root/usr/share/smanager/lib/SrvMngr/Controller/Uservacations.pm
@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ sub main {
 		my $account = $c->session('username'); #TESTING from somewhere ....#$c->param("account");
 		my $user = $adb->get($account);
 		my $username = $user->prop("FirstName")." ".$user->prop("LastName");
-        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || '';
+        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || 'no';
 		my $EmailVacationFrom = $user->prop('EmailVacationFrom') || '';
 		my $EmailVacationTo = $user->prop('EmailVacationTo') || '';
 		$c->stash(account=>$account);
@@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ sub do_display {
 		my $account = $c->param("account");
 		my $user = $adb->get($account);
 		my $username = $user->prop("FirstName")." ".$user->prop("LastName");
-        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || '';
+        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || 'no';
 		my $EmailVacationFrom = $user->prop('EmailVacationFrom') || '';
 		my $EmailVacationTo = $user->prop('EmailVacationTo') || '';
 		$c->stash(account=>$account);
@@ -235,11 +235,11 @@ sub get_vacation_table
     {
         next if %delegatedVacations and not $delegatedVacations{$user->key};
         # make it clearer which uses have vacation
-        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || '';
+        my $EmailVacation = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || 'no';
 		my $EmailVacationFrom = $user->prop('EmailVacationFrom') || '';
 		my $EmailVacationTo = $user->prop('EmailVacationTo') || '';
-        my $status        = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || '';
-        if ($status eq 'yes') { $status = 'YES'; } else { $status = ''; }
+        my $status        = $user->prop('EmailVacation') || 'no';
+        if ($status eq 'yes') { $status = 'YES'; } else { $status = 'NO'; }
 
         push @data,
             { 	User           => $user->key,
diff --git a/smeserver-vacation.spec b/smeserver-vacation.spec
index fa4c35d..297d6c2 100644
--- a/smeserver-vacation.spec
+++ b/smeserver-vacation.spec
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
 
 %define name smeserver-vacation
 %define version 11.0.0
-%define release 3
+%define release 4
 Summary: SME Server enhancement to enable vacation messages for users.
 Name: %{name}
 Version: %{version}
@@ -30,6 +30,9 @@ Optionally provides a user-manager panel where users can
 enable vacation for themselves and to modify their own message
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Oct 02 2025 Brian Read <brianr@koozali.org> 11.0.0-4.sme
+- Make sure that default if no db entry is no vacation message  [SME: 13208]
+
 * Thu Oct 02 2025 Brian Read <brianr@koozali.org> 11.0.0-3.sme
 - Fix typo in event template [SME: 13208]
 - Correct check on debug config for showing route [SME: 13208]